tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11544102.post113458836281606978..comments2023-05-19T01:13:01.860-07:00Comments on Alienated in Church: Flying under WiresMichael Dodarohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10218455310804805561noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11544102.post-1135092617661687002005-12-20T07:30:00.000-08:002005-12-20T07:30:00.000-08:00Scribe, you're cracking me up. "...stand under va...Scribe, you're cracking me up. "...stand under various cones..." reminds me of the cones of silence from that highly intellectual 60s sitcom, Get Smart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11544102.post-1135088431808679612005-12-20T06:20:00.000-08:002005-12-20T06:20:00.000-08:00I just read about 80% of that article about organi...I just read about 80% of that article about organizing worship. I have to agree with Jason, it seemed more like a formula for producing a variety show on TV.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11544102.post-1135015099135473312005-12-19T09:58:00.000-08:002005-12-19T09:58:00.000-08:00Interesting quip I found this morning. Jason, you...Interesting quip I found this morning. Jason, you might appreciate this one: <A HREF="http://www.midnightoilproductions.com/reading/" REL="nofollow">The difference between a church music director and a terrorist is that one might negotiate with a terrorist.</A>Michael Dodarohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10218455310804805561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11544102.post-1134788481782343252005-12-16T19:01:00.000-08:002005-12-16T19:01:00.000-08:00A little off topic, but still in the ballpark. I ...A little off topic, but still in the ballpark. I went to a Christmas concert put on by a local Christian Day School - several students are from my church. I was both encouraged and discouraged. Encouraged that in a small school they are able to have such a program to include an elementary band, HS bands and choirs. I taught music at this school for 2 years back in the dark ages and was able to get nothing more than a small wind ensemble along with the choirs.<BR/><BR/>I was discouraged with the selection of music. Being a Christian school, I would expect our future leaders to come out of it. When the HS students had their turn, the stage band was first. They started off with a Christmas carol that was only lacking a pole dancer - music right out of a night club or worse. It actually had that beat and we won't talk about the blonde drummer. BTW, I've never darkened the doors to that kind of establishment, just observation flipping through the channels on the TV. Next was the full band. The director being trained primarily in jazz had them playing (drum roll)... mostly jazz. I should add, the concert was held in a Baptist church. The closest piece they played that could be called decent music was Leroy Anderson's, "Bugler's Holiday". <BR/><BR/>Then we wonder why the kids don't appreciate Bach and Handel and Mozart or even solid hymnody. It's like their musical literature never rises much above "Dick and Jane... see Spot run...".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11544102.post-1134694512794389972005-12-15T16:55:00.000-08:002005-12-15T16:55:00.000-08:00Scribe, not that I disagree with you, but I think ...Scribe, not that I disagree with you, but I think we must be careful when deciding to take a different course that goes against the grain. Many cults started that way. <BR/><BR/>Mike, start your own church... the First Church of Mozart. OK, I'll admit, Scribe is poet among us so that leaves the wiseguy role to me. That goes with being a bass trombonist. <BR/><BR/>BTW Scribe, I have read many of your posts on the Image Forum over the past several months. I was a lurker and posted a couple times last summer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11544102.post-1134672768353924412005-12-15T10:52:00.000-08:002005-12-15T10:52:00.000-08:00Scribe, I assume that is you that posted above. P...Scribe, I assume that is you that posted above. Pretty strong statement and people say us Fundamentalists (I actually avoid that term normally) are intolerant of other faiths. But, I have to agree with everything you said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11544102.post-1134663679705117732005-12-15T08:21:00.000-08:002005-12-15T08:21:00.000-08:00Mike--You're in the wrong church. The Epicopalians...Mike--<BR/><BR/>You're in the wrong church. The Epicopalians have had "culture" for years, but Christianity is secondary to them, and is now a thing to trade off for party politics. It has always been PC for some agenda--it began, after all, as a result of an adulterous affair (Henry VIII)!<BR/><BR/>It is a waste of time to stay there. Their political positions are more important to them than any Christian theological ones. Because they are shutting you out, you will not be able to make them see the errors of their ways. They will only drag you down, make you compromise in little ways until you've compromised in big ways. Flee temptation. They've chosen their path. You don't have to ride it down with them.<BR/><BR/>There truly is better worship music elsewhere and true worship. To have that music, it's not necessary to put up with so much un-Christian and anti-Christian nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11544102.post-1134651798595342112005-12-15T05:03:00.000-08:002005-12-15T05:03:00.000-08:00Seems that life is full of tradeoffs. I guess bot...Seems that life is full of tradeoffs. I guess bottom line is, in my opinion, the first criteria for choosing a church would be its theological position. Of course choice of music could be an indicator of their theology. The church I belong to takes a strong theological stand and is conservative musically, even though the music may not be on the level I would prefer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11544102.post-1134592300082480172005-12-14T12:31:00.000-08:002005-12-14T12:31:00.000-08:00OK Mike, feel better now. Try a little peyote wit...OK Mike, feel better now. Try a little peyote with that Native American music.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com